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so now you have karl rove and the others. republican primary voters are the ones that have chosen these people. it's a conservative group trying to take over. this is the most interesting group in america today. i would say this. parties lose elections. i have never seen in all the years in politics that had a party go from defeat in a president election to worse and worse and worse. to being wrong on issues, to being devicive. i can't think that there's many americans today with all of these internal, vicious fights is incapable of governance. >> when you look carely at his stances, he boegsed about anti-gay groups. he suggested soets shouldn't tolerate same-sex marriage, won't say if they should be protected under the immigration law. so even with the moderate kind of image as a savior, when you dig into the details policiwise, very conservative kind of guy. no question, it reminds me of a great philosophy of the 20th century with whom you were familiar, henny youngman and his great line, how's your wife? >> compared to wha
so now you have karl rove and the others. republican primary voters are the ones that have chosen these people. it's a conservative group trying to take over. this is the most interesting group in america today. i would say this. parties lose elections. i have never seen in all the years in politics that had a party go from defeat in a president election to worse and worse and worse. to being wrong on issues, to being devicive. i can't think that there's many americans today with all of these...
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look at the rap sheet on this guy, karl rove. let's go down memory lane and remind ourselves at least, if the right wing doesn't, of some of karl rove's greatest hits. as a top adviser to george w. bush, he sold the war in iraq to everybody it seems. he got off scot-free even though he was at the center of the cia leak scandal. walked from that one. the architect couldn't help a republican majority in the 2006 midterms bring the democrats back to power in both the house and senate for the first time. he blew it all on the table. and in 2012 the sunlight foundation reported that crossroads had a 1%, $1 in $100, return on its election investment. so karl rove failed putting together a republican realignment, failed in holding the house and the white house and the senate, lost all that. got involved in the cia leak case, somehow got through that where scooter did get caught and the president -- actually the vice president should have been caught. that's not a good investment, joy, and yet there he is out there telling the republican
look at the rap sheet on this guy, karl rove. let's go down memory lane and remind ourselves at least, if the right wing doesn't, of some of karl rove's greatest hits. as a top adviser to george w. bush, he sold the war in iraq to everybody it seems. he got off scot-free even though he was at the center of the cia leak scandal. walked from that one. the architect couldn't help a republican majority in the 2006 midterms bring the democrats back to power in both the house and senate for the first...
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here's what republican joe scarborough said today about karl rove. >> is karl rove right that you got to be gatekeepers? people who are like party chairs, big fund raisers? >> course. i don't know that karl rove after his performance in 2012 should be the gatekeeper. he was inside the bubble as much as anybody else. >> ari, i'm not neutral on this because like the ad said, i am an obama following radical hollywood liberal. when they say that about ashley judd, i'm really hurt. >> well, you booked the right guest. we have that in common. >> ashley judd, look at this ppp poll of kentucky voters, ashley judd at 43%, mitch mcconnell at 47%. now, what that means is mitch mcconnell is in grave trouble. as you know, ari, an incumbent is supposed to poll over 50%, usually significantly over 50%. whenever they poll before bee low 50 they're in grave trouble. the presumption is if the election was held literally today, the undecideds would go to the challenger ashley judd. she's a shoe-in, is what i'm saying. >> there's a lot of time but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has a problem here.
here's what republican joe scarborough said today about karl rove. >> is karl rove right that you got to be gatekeepers? people who are like party chairs, big fund raisers? >> course. i don't know that karl rove after his performance in 2012 should be the gatekeeper. he was inside the bubble as much as anybody else. >> ari, i'm not neutral on this because like the ad said, i am an obama following radical hollywood liberal. when they say that about ashley judd, i'm really hurt....
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karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia senate. this is a guy who calls evolution and the big bang theory live straight from the pit of health. he sug jeszed the president abide by the soviet constitution and he called snookie more substantive than the president of the united states. he might say it with a better tone, but how do you take this out there and act like this is something that the american public can even entertain having to represent them in a senate or any other office. >> well, it's not. but those aren't the tenants of the republican party. but this is an out liar trying to t
karl rove thinks that, marc marco rubio thinks that. it's not guilty aboutish issues, like you just said. when you look at, hogan, the war on women and the legislation they passed in certain states against women's right to choose, it wasn't that women were objecting to the tone, they were objecting to the policy. when you look at they're closing planned parenthood, let's go to a judge. let's teal with the fact that you have a man named paul brown who announced today his bid for the georgia...
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let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do you say to that claim that the tea party is marginalizing the party by getting unelectable candidates winning primaries? >> because it is not the tea party. the reason why we keep losing as republicans is because we keep going down the path of we keep nominating moderates and moderates don't win. why are we going to keep trying to sit there and listen to people unfortunately like governor jindal that say we need to move more to the left and become more like the democrats and appeal to all of these demographics. that's what's causing us to lose el
let me tell you how i think karl rove views this. let me try to go into karl rove's mind with my hazmat suit. karl rove would probably say that you're focused on winning primaries. he's focused on winning elections. he would say that you guys are going to put up candidates who are -- will pass anyone's purity test like sharon ingle, my friend, christine o'donnell mr. mourdock, he will put up guys who could get elected although after last november, i'm not sure he can make that claim. what do...
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don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee atwater, when the opponent is self-destructing get out of the way. >> that goes back to napoleon. >> well lee atwater made it famous in our world. he's right. for the democrats, you watch these guys and you see on the one hand they've lost the middle which is great for the democratic party because everything they lose we pick up. on the other hand, they're attacking their base, which is going to result in not victories for moderate candidates who can win general elections, but it's going to result in right wing candidates getting their backs up, getting in these pri
don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee...
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karl rove was the biggest looser of 2012. he lost 10 out of 12 senate seats, lost 4 out of 9 of their house seats, donald trump accused him of blowing $400 million in this, so why would anybody trust karl rove with another dime, number 1? and the real question that i have is how much money is karl rove making out of this deal? i think this is another scam to fatten karl rove's pockets. >> jennifer: that's a really important point that these sort of advisors to these pacs he is probably gets some kind of percentage or direct salary that he is benefitting from enormously. >> exactly. >> jennifer: jason should democrats worry about this or should they exploit this conservative victory project? >> you know, a wise confederate general once said don't get anywhere near a circular firing squad. it's not wise to let the democrats get anywhere near this. and the reality is not only is karl rove simply lining his pockets, but this is the difficult birthing process that any party goes through when they lost consecutive elections. just l
karl rove was the biggest looser of 2012. he lost 10 out of 12 senate seats, lost 4 out of 9 of their house seats, donald trump accused him of blowing $400 million in this, so why would anybody trust karl rove with another dime, number 1? and the real question that i have is how much money is karl rove making out of this deal? i think this is another scam to fatten karl rove's pockets. >> jennifer: that's a really important point that these sort of advisors to these pacs he is probably...
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a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not playing well even in a conservative state like georgia when you're talking statewide in the general. what do you say? >> well, of course, paul is going to get a lot of competition in that primary fight. you're going to be looking at guys like tom price and tom graves who have an incredibly strong record of fiscal conservatism. i think the core of the tea party, remember, is not social issues, it's not abortion, it's not immigration, it's not these other things. it's whether or not we should spend money we don't have. it's whether or not the government should live w
a candidate that perhaps karl rove will steer away from. paul broun, the georgia congressman running to replace saxby chambliss, and "the times" pointed out today, quote, mr. broun, a physician on the house science, space, and technology committee, attracted attention last fall for saying that, quote, evolution, embryology, and the big bang theory, all of that is lies straight from the pit of hell. i'll bet that plays well in his congressional district, but my hunch is that's not...
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i don't remember karl rove. >> karl rove is a wheeler dealer. he's playing right into the hands of the democrat party. >> bottom line is that they zront a better record at picking winners than the quote, unquote amateur tea party types do. and when they pick winners, what do we end up winning? we get squishy republican moderates. >> bill: joining us now is karl rove. i don't know why they're upset. you just want republicans to win, right? >> yes. yes. right. >> well, look. i was the director of the texas campaign for ronald reagan, fall of 1980 appointed by president reagan to sit on white house fellows selection panel. i didn't meet him but he wanted to know where the heck i was then, well that, is where i was. let's be clear about what this is about. conservative victory project is an outgrowth of desire donors of american cross roads to get involved in primaries. rush said we zront a better roord than the tea party. i've been involved and gave money to marco rubio early in his campaign. i gave money early to pat toomey. went and gave a speech
i don't remember karl rove. >> karl rove is a wheeler dealer. he's playing right into the hands of the democrat party. >> bottom line is that they zront a better record at picking winners than the quote, unquote amateur tea party types do. and when they pick winners, what do we end up winning? we get squishy republican moderates. >> bill: joining us now is karl rove. i don't know why they're upset. you just want republicans to win, right? >> yes. yes. right. >>...
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karl rove is out there fighting it. jim vandehei wrote in politico, it's not just karl rove wanting to get rid of the crazies. the party as a whole does. one high profile republican strategist who obviously refused to have his name in order to avoid inflaming -- >> it is feehery. >> it wasn't me. >> said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to marginalize the cranks, haters, and bigots. there's a lot of underbrush that needs to be cleaned out. republican after republican told us the party dodged a bullet with mitt romney's loss. if he had squeaked in, this vital reboot would have been delayed. >> wasn't that mike murphy? >> it was feehery. >> let's speak for your party, john. so many people in your party think you have to do a better job of proctoring who gets the nominations and don't just leave it to the grassroots. your view? >> well, this is obviously a pretty divisive issue -- >> where are you? >> i don't like cranks and crazy people. i want winners. i want people who can win. now, that being said, you got
karl rove is out there fighting it. jim vandehei wrote in politico, it's not just karl rove wanting to get rid of the crazies. the party as a whole does. one high profile republican strategist who obviously refused to have his name in order to avoid inflaming -- >> it is feehery. >> it wasn't me. >> said there is a deliberate effort by party leaders to marginalize the cranks, haters, and bigots. there's a lot of underbrush that needs to be cleaned out. republican after...
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realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the todd aiken and grover norquist. you do this by you giving me money and i buy up a lot of air time etc. i can understand the impetus but karl rove, basically he's a snake oil salesman and this was the eastest easiest thing for him to sell. the party is in big trouble. what appeals to the constituents in these districts does not appeal to a broad swath of americans. karl rove is finding the angle in which to make a lot of money and i suspect he will win in that regard. >> john: he takes their money and bernie madeff sands in awe. sam seder and joe williams, thank y
realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the...
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it turns out karl rove and mitch mcconnell are really, really afraid of ashley judd. >> is karl rove right, you have to be gate keepers? not you because you're not in the position but people like party chairs, fund-raisers? >> of course they are. but i don't know that karl rove, after his performance in 2012, should be the gate keeper. >> if some people think the best we can do is todd mourdoch -- excuse me, todd aiken and richard mourdoch, they're wrong. >> you made some mistakes but everybody makes mistakes. >> but he's already actually spending money, trying to stop one democrat from running for sena senate. >> poor ashley judd, come on now. you're calling her -- making fun of her. >> this is the opening act. she has said a bunch of stuff that the people of kentucky when they hear about it are are not going to like it. want to explain her radical views that she's got and in the weeks and months ahead we'll continue to introduce those radical views to the people of kentucky. >> we have but a moment left, sam and ryan. is bush's brain actually shaken by the woman who played reed hal
it turns out karl rove and mitch mcconnell are really, really afraid of ashley judd. >> is karl rove right, you have to be gate keepers? not you because you're not in the position but people like party chairs, fund-raisers? >> of course they are. but i don't know that karl rove, after his performance in 2012, should be the gate keeper. >> if some people think the best we can do is todd mourdoch -- excuse me, todd aiken and richard mourdoch, they're wrong. >> you made...
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and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a track tout. i used to go and after the races were over, they would show you who they'd recommend you'd bet on. it was always the winners that pass out the free picks. i would have bet on this guy. that's rove out there saying i would have had all of these winners picked, we would have won all of these general elections and now everybody realizes we're going to go over it in a minute. but your thoughts? >> now, i totally agree with howard. your analogy there. the problem for karl is we have all the betting slips. his two organizations, american cross ro
and karl rove can't organize it. neither can any of the other people who played with that power but who now can't control it. >> so those who rode the tiger are now inside the tiger. >> exactly. >> don't forget, the chamber of commerce, at very times, made common cause with the antigovernment, anti-tax, anti-everything. they were willing to get in bed with him at certain points. and now they're paying for it. and karl is trying to unwind what he's wound. >> he's like a...
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karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she came from. >> and it just clicked, tennessee is home. and it just clicked -- >> kentucky. >> is home. >> someone from out of state who understands us. >> i don't know about a hillbilly's who golf. hillbilly's. >> her own grandmother says she's a hollywood liberal. but isn't that what we need? ashley judd, an obama following radical hollywood liberal who's right at home here in tennessee -- i mean kentucky. >> now i think that was karl rove's voice there when it said kentucky. he's -- he knows how to cut a political ad. i guess she's going to have to throw the towel in after that. this is part of a $10,000 media
karl rove's super pack is already launching a preemptive attack against the actress. take a look. >> you know what this country really needs? an independent voice for obama. >> i am committed to president obama and vice president biden. i think he's a brilliant man. he is now able to flower more as the president i knew he could be. >> a leader who knows how to follow. >> i will go wherever the president wants me to go. >> someone who will never forget where she...
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you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talks, right? if you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have adelson there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that worked well for romney. here is the deal money can't buy you, authenticity. >> they're authentic, i hate to tell you. they're the real thing. >> they're authentic to the point where -- if you're authentic in your irrationality, great. you'll appeal to the irrational people. but when this guy says the earth was formed -- hold on. when the earth was formed 9,000 years ago and we started farming 10,000 years ago, it's insane. >> we have to come back to the fact that they have a base, that people like this have been elected. >> exactly. they have been. >> you know, i look at mourdock, he won. i like at akin,
you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talks, right? if you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have adelson there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that...
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let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious conservative congressman from missouri who rove would have seen happy elected to the senate. he goofed, said those horrible things and blew the campaign apart. it's a little bit of a slippery slope for him because he was fine with what was going on there. karl rove is motivated by money. we all know that. >> cenk: really? >> we always have to remember about karl rove, he was a recount in florida away, a supreme court justice away from being one of the biggest political morons in history. if he had gotten, if george bush had last, we wouldn't be talking about him today. he
let's talk about karl rove here. terry jeffery editor of c.n.s. news has written an article saying karl rove is not a conservative. i know the battle lines and why they're doing this, but what do you think is rove really putting himself out there here and might he get damaged badly in this? >> karl rove, you think if he would have been damaged badly it would have happened in this most recent election. his pack backed eight candidates, seven of whom lost. todd akin was a religious...
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. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican side, you have karl rove. >> karl rove has a new super pac to get rid of candidate like steve king. >> some people believe to get rid of todd akin. >> the female body has ways to shut that down. >> the republican party ought to split. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> but they are not walking the walk. >> washington has to deal with its spending problem. >> the looming budget war. >> i've had enough of it. time to act. >> we've seen the republicans playing game. >> i love nancy pelosi. >> playing games with the budget. >> they recognize that the sequester is a bad i
. >>> feeling sorry for karl rove yet? he is having a lot of trouble getting republicans to listen to him these days. maybe he shouldn't have wasted 100 million of their dollars on the last election. >> will the republican change the substance of their position? >> we need to do better. >> what's going on inside the republican party? >> they've gotten spanked a couple of times. >> better conservative candidates and win. >> on the official republican...
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how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively. they know what they are getting. steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well, today in washington house majorit
how dare karl rove and his money guys try to do any such thing. and so yes, paul broun and steve king may be the prototypical examples of the kind of off the cooke end candidates that karl rove and the big money guys do not want in republican politics, because those are the kind of guys that lose senate seats that are otherwise winnable. but karl rove and his money guys kind of stand alone in that assessment. the rest of the party wants that. they want those guys. and they want it not naively....